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Night Planning features for Visual or Imaging sessions

Hi,

As an amateur astrophotographer, I'm looking for planning capabilities in an IOS app and I can't find any doing that and I'm not sure yours does it. By the way, I already own the Pro version.

For instance, I would like to know the objects (nebula, cluster...) that I could see given the following criteria:

- 45 degrees above the horizon (as altitude affects the quality of the image) - DSO's that will be available during a specific time (some apps tells me that he object is available at 9am. As you can imagine not very useful as I'm particularly interested in imaging during night hours)

- DSO's that will be visible for at least as specific amount of time (I.e. 120min). Important when you plan for an imaging session

- Is the object going to cross the meridian? Important because the telescope mount will have to flip and things need to be readjusted unless you have a $60K mount

- A way to indicate FOV criteria. For instance. If I'm imaging with a telescope equipment that gives me a field of view of 32 arc minutes by 66 arc minutes, I'm not interested to see in the results the North American Nebula which is a much larger object and my equipment won't be able to image it properly

- Select magnitude

These would be basic settings. A true astronomic planning software will give you a lot more criteria to select like seeing, visibility, better objects based on your specific visual equipment (I.e. Mono, color, filter types...). Planning software can very sophisticated but having at least some basic parameters that you can plan with could help for planning visual or imaging sessions.  A good example of a very powerful planning app in Windows is SkyTools.

By the way, there is an app called "Observer Pro" in the Apple Store, that although no longer maintained, it gets a lot of good feedback in CloudyNights.com. As far as I know, this is the only app that provides some level of sky planning in IOS platform. You can get some additional ideas from the app. It's not super intuitive -but you can see the instructions in settings-, but it gets the job done to a certain extend. It even lets you define your own horizon (using your camera phone) and base on that, the best hours to see or visual a specific object. Also, it would be ideal if you could simulate the size of the object based on your specific equipment and FOV, this way, you will know if you will crop a specific object or it will be whole in your FOV.

Let me know what you think.

Best

Miquel Casas Portland, OR Rose City Astronomers

Ps: if at some point you need a beta tester, you can let me know too

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    Bill Tschumy

    We plan to significantly enhance the planning capabilities of SkySafari in version 6.  In version 5, you can sort of do what you want, although you can't specify a window of time.

    Set the chart's time to when you want to image.  Then using Advanced Search you can specify object type, altitude range, magnitude range and size range.  This will bring up a list of objects meeting your criteria and I think this will get you pretty close to what you want.

    It is unlikely that SkySafari will ever have all the capabilities of a dedicated planner app, but we do want to come closer.

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    Mcbbcn

    Hi Bill,

    Thank you so much for getting back to me so quickly.  I did what you mentioned (Magnitude=8, size in arcmin at least 40, and Altitude at least 45 degrees) and it pulled a list of objects.  The first object that included was NGC 7822 but when I looked at it, it said "does not rise" and transits at 6:27am, basically in full light. Is there a way to get around that? That's probably the window of time limitation that you mentioned.

    Kind regards,

    Miquel

     

     

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    Bill Tschumy

    What you describe does not necessarily indicate a problem.   The object "does not rise" because it is circumpolar and never sets from your location.  Just because it transits at 6:27 doesn't mean is not in your elevation range during the time you specified.

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    Mcbbcn

    Makes sense.  It does not rise, it also means, it never sets.  So, how can I tell if an object would be above a specific altitude during a specific window of time? Is that limitation that you mentioned earlier?

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    Bill Tschumy

    Yes, specifying a window of time during which the conditions must be met is planned for version 6.  Right now, if you know the object will be in the west during your time, you would have to raise the lower altitude range a bit to account for the object moving lower in the sky during that period.  Conversely if the object in in the east.  Not perfect, but it can get at what you want.

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    Mcbbcn

    That's a work around.  I can do that until we get version 6.  Exciting!!! I can't wait to see the new version.  Thanks for all your help. Best,

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