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Why Don't Notifications And Notification Sounds Work Properly On Samsung Note 8 With Android Pie? (Answer: The Android OS Is Too Restricted - Read On!)

Just upgraded to sky Safari Pro 6.2 and I have started receiving notifications that the HST is rising except it is setting so it is going below the horizon. 

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    Keiron Smith Official comment
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    Keiron Smith

    Hi Larry, 

    Our SkySafari developer, Bill Tschumy, recently replied to this question saying the following:

    Android has really screwed up notifications.  They have made it so it is basically impossible to have notifications fire at a specific time.  In the interest of saving the battery when the device is sleeping, they queue up notifications and have them all fire within certain windows.  It is not possible to have them fire at specific times.  There are lots of complaints in the developer forums about this.

    A couple of months ago I tried to make these work better and largely succeeded.  However they are not perfect.  I spent a couple of days on this and I'm not sure I can do much better.  The problem is that the behavior depends on the device and the version of Android it is running.

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    Chris

    Hey Keiron--

    More research needs to be done on this.  I have many apps that send me notifications on specific time frames, while SkySafari does not anymore.  I'll give examples:

    1.  Trivia app HQ - notifies me daily at different times 10 minutes before the live trivia game is to start, and also 30-60 seconds before the first question, where they're very specifically notifying me on certain times. 

    2.  Words with Friends - Immediate notifications when another player has played.  I can be playing someone back and forth and I play and close the app, they play 30 seconds later and I get an immediate notification. 

    3.  Yahoo! Sports - I get notifications based on scores, game starts, game ends, etc.  All of these notifications are pushed at specific times, not batched and sent all at once. 

    4.  Outlook mail - I get notifications every time an email comes in, dozens per day, right when they are pushed.  These are immediate and the notification times match up to the exact minute the email message arrived. 

    5. Snapchat/Facebook/Messenger/What's App/GroupMe - All of these apps fire notifications on command of the app at exact times.  

    I could go on and on, but the point here is, Android has not disallowed specific time-fire of notifications; on the contrary, that would be absurd.  Maybe there was a bug that caused developer uproar that was immediately fixed?  Not sure.  If it can't be figured out, then we should remove the feature altogether and just tell users that the programming was too difficult, but blaming in on Android and calling it an impossibility isn't right.

    Chris

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    Keiron Smith

    Thanks for finding and updating this post, Chris!  I'll push this to the dev team for another review.  Your feedback is always invaluable!!

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    Keiron Smith

    Chris, do you find this is an issue on previous versions of Android.  Is this just an Android 9 issue?  Are you running SS6 on any older Android?  Thanks!

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    Chris

    Hey Keiron, I'm running an older version of SS6 on a tablet with an older version of Android, but I don't much use notifications on that device so can't confirm much. I DO think Android 9 made some changes with regard to notifications, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the problems came up. I'll turn on notifications on my tablet and see what happens.

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    Chris

    It does appear to be working on my tablet with older Android.

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    Keiron Smith

    Thanks, Chris!  I'll ask the developers to review again this issue, to see if this is related only to Android 9, if they can push a fix with the next update.

     

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