Starry Night V7 | Things To Look For While Beta Testing - Part 1

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    As of Tuesday March 10th there is a new Windows installer available - resolving previous known issues with the installation.

    Welcome Starry Night V7 Beta Testers!

    Important! The Version 7 Beta is updated every night. So, you can download a new version every couple of days to see how we are coming along. Did you get today's latest available download? If not, please grab a copy. We are moving fast!

    Also, this is just a general "intro" to beta-testing. Feel free to explore the program in full. There is so much more to V7 than what is described below.

    Please do not report your issues as a reply to this post. We need you to continue reporting issues using the beta-testers ticket submission process here: beta.starrynight.com

    Thanks your very much for you participation in the testing of V7!

    1. Installation

    Were there any issues with the install? Any error messages?

    Note: V7 is not compatible with WIndows XP. V7 is compatible with Vista/Windows /7/Windows 8

    On Windows you need 7zip: http://www.7-zip.org/ - but, once unzipped, you will now find a .exe file. Double-click and you have lift-off.

    On Windows, if you get the MSVCR110.dll Error message it can be resolved by installing the following software (but this should not be an issue for anyone who has downloaded the latest installer)

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30679#

    32bit: VSU_4\vcredist_x64.exe
    64bit: VSU_4\vcredist_x86.exe

    On Mac, Keka is not longer required to unzip the installer. The Mac installer downloads as a DMG - which once opened reveals a Starry Night.app.

    2. Registration.

    Did you encounter any difficulty with the registration?

    3. Home Screen

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    Play around. Above are a few areas we invite you to explore. Open all the submenus. Turn everything on/off. Scroll the windows. Drag the side pane left/right.

    4. Options Tab

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    Please try all the options. Open all the submenus. Turn everything on/off. Scroll the windows. Drag the side pane left/right ;)

    NOTE: On Windows, if this Option Tab is missing you can still access all the options - just type them into the Universal Search field, i.e search for "Planets" or "Events", etc.

    5. SkyGuide

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    Explore the redesigned SkyGuide. Take tours. Watch the videos. Click the images. Double-click on stuff. Does it break?

    6. Exoplanets!

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    Center, go-to, orbit and land on the exoplanets. Everything work as expected?

    Can you open the attached file? 55cncsystem.snf

    Try to land on the stars, go to exoplanets and land on them, zoom in/out, change elevation etc. We want to make sure you can navigate well within an exoplanet system.

    You should be able to land on the star and see a horizon, land on an exoplanet and see an horizon, etc.

    Thanks!

    7. Universal Search.

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    What searches are you performing that return empty results? Does universal search return the results you expected? Are the results useful? What search keywords would you like to be supported? Or feel are missing and important?

    Search for NGC and Messier objects. How does it perform?

    We would really appreciate your feedback regarding the new Universal Search function. We have created a specific forum for Universal Search discussion - please see here:

    https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/entries/28261520-Request-For-V7-Beta-Testing-Forum-Access

    Note, you will not be able to see the Universal Search forum until you are granted access.

    There is a two step process to access the the SN7 beta forums.

    1.  Login to the support website: https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/access/unauthenticated?return_to=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.simulationcurriculum.com%2F

    2. Add a comment to the bottom of this article:  https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/entries/28261520-Request-For-V7-Beta-Testing-Forum-Access

    8. Go There!

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    Search for a planet. Click the triple line box. Choose to go there! Can you go everywhere?

    9. Planetary Maps

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    We have included new high resolution planetary maps. Do all the textures load and render correctly?

    10. Equipment List

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    Can you add all your equipment to the lists?

    11. Telescope Control

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    Can you set up your telescope? Configure? Control?

    We would really appreciate your feedback regarding the telescope control function. We have created specific telescope forums for discussion - please see here:

    https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/entries/28261520-Request-For-V7-Beta-Testing-Forum-Access

    Note, you will not be able to see the SN7 telescope forums until you are granted access.

    There is a two step process to access the the SN7 beta forums.

    1.  Login to the support website: https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/access/unauthenticated?return_to=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.simulationcurriculum.com%2F

    2. Add a comment to the bottom of this article:  https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/entries/28261520-Request-For-V7-Beta-Testing-Forum-Access

    12. Orbital Editor I

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    Try out the Orbit Editor

    Orbital Editor II

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    Add your favorite incoming sungrazers, and NEOs. Does the orbitor work properly?

    13. Printing

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    Go to File ---> Print. Try 1 Pane and 3 Pane. Does everything work ok?

    14. Graph bar

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    Its on the bottom - pull it up. Or View ---> Show Graph.

    15. Generate Ephemerides

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    Does the ephemeris generator work properly? Right click on any planet and choose "Generate Ephemerides".

    16. Image Editor (Add Image)

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    Right click on any part of space and choose "Add Image". Does it work properly?

    Comments

    • Avatar
      Edward Cafarella

      Already having a problem just installing it.  I'm getting an error message that MSVP100.dll is missing.  I will attempt to rectify this problem tonight.

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      Steve Pellman

      got it installed - can't open. had a similar error as you, Ed Cafarella, that a dynamic link library is missing. although not MSVP100. missing dll was pthreadVC2. When I re-unzipped to /Program Files (x86) that problem went away.  Now when I click to open \starrynight.exe I get the following error:

      starrynight.exe - Entry Point Not Found

      The procedure entry point

      ?id@$codecvt@DDH@std@@2V0locale@2@A could not be located in

      the dynamic link library C:\Program Files (X86)\Starry Night\starrynight.exe

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      keiron smith

      Hi Edward,

      On Windows, if you get the MSVCR110.dll Error message it can be resolved by installing the following software

      http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30679#

      32bit: VSU_4\vcredist_x64.exe
      64bit: VSU_4\vcredist_x86.exe

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      Hazem Hafez

      Hi Keiron,
      Registration number doesn't work

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      David Talbot

      Installed no problem on Macbook running Mavericks

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      John Davidson

      Installed on a Macbook Air and a Mac-mini, and I have to say that the graphics performance is very medicore compared to SN6. Are other people seeing the same problems?

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      David Talbot

      A bit slow loading but seems fine once up and running on my Macbook Pro, it is an early 2011 2.3GHz model though is running a 512gb SSD and 16gb of Ram (yes I know Apple say it only takes 8!)

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      John Davidson

      Just loaded the latest build. Activity monitor shows SN7 consuming 81-95% of CPU cycles. I've shutdown nearly all background tasks and reduced graphics settings but it hasn't made a significant difference.

      Can I suggest that we need more forums than just the ones for telescope mounts?

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      John Davidson

      I take it all back! After disabling all extensions and startups and booting clean, SN7 runs fine. There is obviously some interaction with some extension going on, so I will need to see if I can isolate it. Hopefully it's not something essential like Alfred.

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      John Davidson

      Just loaded the latest version on my Mac Mini and it works very well without disabling anything, so it looks like the latest build has fixed something impacting graphics performance.

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I have yet to get past the msvcr100 error when hitting program start icon.  I have downloaded several builds to no avail.  Operating system is win7 premium 64 bit.

      I did look into the installed files and did not see where the msvcr100.dll even exists.  I downloaded both x86 abd 64 bit links as mentioned. Uninstalled, reinstalled.  Still no go.  I am currently downloading the 27 March beta version, hoping something works, I really would like to test this software out with the telescope.

       

      Best Regards,

      Jeff Turner

       

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I am going to try unzipping to program files x86 as suggested in a comment above and see what happens.

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I am attaching screenshot of the installed files from starry night pro plus 7.  Still no go the msvcp100 dll missing error still keeps coming up.  1 file attached screenshot.  I would think the msvcp dll file would be located in the installation directory.  Once again I have downloaded the Microsoft links and installed both files from links provided if this error comes up. 




      Starry Night Pro Plus 7 install files in x86.jpg
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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      Ok I have a resolution to anyone with windows who has the msvcp100 error and it continues. Search computer for the msvcp100.dll.  COpy and paste any mscvp 100 dll you find into the starry installation folder under programs x86/starry Night Pro Plus 7.

      When I run exe at this point new error showed.  Cant run missing mscvr100.dll, so search computer for this file, where ever you find it copy and paste into same mentioned directory above.  Starry Night Pro Plus 7 now works.

       

      Best Regards,

       

      Jeff Turner

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I have had time to sit down with program for about hour now.  I am getting lots of crashes when I zoom in on objects such as planets or dso's and try to choose any of the menu options from pop up menu for the object.  I am filling in all info the the automatic reports which are generated due to these failures.  The program seems to be crashing often just while bringing up objects within the planetarium program.  For reference my OS is win 7 64 bit premium edition.  Video card is the Nividia GTX 285 with 2 gigs of onboard memory.  I did end up turning off shaders in opengl.  Crashes are still happening quite often. 

       

      I do like the look and feel of the new verison, feels like I can jump between program features quite rapidly compared to verison 6.4, even though I have only been using beta version for few minutes. 

       

      Best Regards,

       

      Jeff Turner

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I am currently using mar27 beta build for above referenced comment.

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I will say that the planetarium screen is way faster at responding to changes then version 6.4, nice improvement!

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I will be installing the beta next on my observatory laptop computer and will be testing mount operations of my cgem with the beta software next few days, will send back reports and such, I know you have great interest in hearing from those who operate gear via the software.

       

      Best Regards,

       

      Jeff Turner

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      Sorry for all the posts at this location, just spotted the beta testing submit report link!

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      John Davidson

      It would be helpful if there are release notes with each update. I don't know if a new update is supposed to deal with my scope connection issues or not.

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      Tim Cole

      I agree, John. It'd be nice to know what has been addressed since the last build.

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      John Davidson

      It makes testing a very hit and miss affair. With each new update I have no idea what my testing should focus on. For instance, I have a scope control problem that has lasted for the last few updates. I have no idea if any of these updates were supposed to address my issue and the solution has failed, or if my issue has not been addressed. It makes it really hard to know what to look at.

      I'm a professional software tester, and if I was presented with a release and no release notes at work, I would send it back as "failed testing due to lack of documentation".

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      Tim Cole

      It's getting a bit aggravating. I just got 7.0.0.93, and I've no idea what's been changed. Going through my list of potential problems to see which ones are still there is, at best, time consuming. For example, I've reported some problems with the orbit editor. The problems seem to still be there, but should they be? Should I bother checking?

      It'd be useful to have a list of items on the developers' to-do list, with some indication of things they'd like to get checked out and items that can wait.

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      I initially had some issues which I thought were crashes and bugs when using the emphemerides generator, I have since found at I was making mistake of trying to generate these while zoomed in on object, if one does so it crashes program. To generate emphemerides one must not be zoomed in on the object, it will work fine.

      I see few comments in this post where people not sure what to do for beta test.  From what I have read here the direction are listed above in this topic,  one must work down the check list for this topic, and submit results to listed forums for each step as indicated.  If one has telescope mount it looks like they want telescope owners to operate gear as much as possible with software and submit findings and crashes under appropriate indicated telescope. 

       

      For all crash reports log in at http://beta.starrynight.com/  and submit report via this url.

       

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      Keiron,

       

      When do you anticipate Starry Night Pro 7 Beta files will be available for testing?

       

      Thanks

       

      J. Turner

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      Jeffry Turner (DaltonSkyGazer)

      Downloaded and ran through the whole Beta checklist for Starry Night Pro 7.  No crashes, stable, did not have any issues.   OS is Win 64 bit premium edition.

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      Mark Burkhardt

      Is there a Starry Night 7 Pro Plus version for Windows 10 yet?

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      Keiron Smith

      Hi Mark,

      Starry Night will run on Windows 10.  The issue may be driver compatibility.  Do you have a certified Windows 10 driver for your graphics card?  If so, go ahead and run Starry Night 7 (public or beta) and let me know what happens.  

      Thanks!

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