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Is The Skywatcher SynScan Wi-Fi Supported By SkySafari 6 Pro? (Answer: Yes on Android, Yes on iOS)

I have recently bought a SkyWatcher AZ-GTi mount which works via a WiFi connection to a smartphone running the Synscan app. It is then supposed to be able to connect to SkySafari.

I have tried this out using my iPhone 6Plus and can successfully operate it using the Synscan app. However, when I try to connect using SkySafari I always get a message saying that it could make a connection but that the scope is not working. According to the instructions it should work.

I am connected to the WiFi network created by the mount, and have the IP address set as 192.168.4.2 with port number 11882 which is as per the instructions. I have also tried with 127.0.0.1 which also connects but does not work.

I love SkySafari and really want to get this working, any ideas??

Thank you :)

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    Jay Sottolano

    Mike,

    Thanks for the quick reply.  Not 100% sure I'm following, also, I'm using SkySafari 6 Plus (if that makes a difference).  The SynScan Pro app connects immediately and comes up as the AZ / EQ6 mount.. Haven't found a place to change that?

    Are you talking about the settings in SkySafari for the Telescope type?  There I used German EQ and SkyWatcher SynScan.  Also, and perhaps another difference.  The dongle does not attach to the hand controller on the EQ6-R but must be plugged directly into the port where the controller would normally be plugged in.

    I have VERY successfully used Sky Safari Pro for OSX on my MacBook Pro, using the Serial Port to USB connector recommended by Bill T., but that's a wired connection.  It is GREAT and love it.  I was hoping to be able to not have to use the MacBook Pro now that winter it approaching.  :-)

    Jay S.

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    Raymond Wallbank

    Hi, just a quick note, you do not need two iOS devices to use SkySafari 6 pro with the az-gti mount. At the moment I'm using my Amazon kindle with the SynScan pro app connected to the mount. My ipad is running SkySafari which is also connected to the az-gti mount as its wifi connection . To create the link just enter the ip address of the kindle and the port 11882 into SkySafari and you should be good to go.

    Ray W.

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    Keiron Smith

    An interesting alternative configuration, Ray!  Thanks for sharing!

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    Kev Haworth

    "

    Raymond WallbankToday at 15:44

    Hi, just a quick note, you do not need two iOS devices to use SkySafari 6 pro with the az-gti mount. At the moment I'm using my Amazon kindle with the SynScan pro app connected to the mount. My ipad is running SkySafari which is also connected to the az-gti mount as its wifi connection . To create the link just enter the ip address of the kindle and the port 11882 into SkySafari and you should be good to go.

    Ray W."

    Not SkySafari's issue, but to run the program on iOS this means you still need two devices.... This was the point of the original post.

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    Raymond Wallbank

    Yes I'm aware of this, all I was stating was that you do not need to use two iOS devices which a lot of people do not have.

    I resolved my issue using my old kindle as the second device.

    Ray W.

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    patrick.trees

    Any hint when SynSkan WiFi will be supported?

    Patrick

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    moshen

    I'd love to see an update to this as well. Thanks team!

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    Wicked Empire

    Hi Bill

    Is there any update to this since your Sept 1st post?

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    david jackson

    Hi Everyone this is my first post  just paid money for ss6 pro to use on ipad with synscan for a star party next week only to find out its not working 

    i have no intention of using ipads etc  im also not blaming anyone 

    all i want to no is   is it going to get sorted  because looking at the dates from the first post i dont think is going to ever get sorted  

    so will try to get a refund 

     

    thank for looking 

    David

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    Andrew Murphy

    Hi Bill and Tim. Hugely keen on this update as the 2 device strategy is prone to random failure. Hows it going with adding support for direct connection to a synscan wifi?

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    steve davis

    Just a reminder, Is it still going to be completed "in the second half of 2018 "?

     

    Bill Tschumy March 03, 2018 08:38

    In our brief communication with SkyWatcher, it appears we can make some modifications to SkySafari so you will only need one device.  Again, this probably won't happen until the second half of 2018.

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    Keiron Smith

    Hi Steve, 

    This afternoon we discussed native SkySafari support for the SynScan WiFi module.  The developers are reviewing what needs to be done.  If possible, we will have it added into an update coming in November.  As Bill has retired, and Tim moved onto other non-related projects, the schedule for development has to be adjusted.  I'll update in the forums when I have more info.  We will need help with the beta-testing for sure.

    Thanks for your patience.

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    Tamás Fehér

    Hi Keiron,

    First of all, I'm terribly sorry that Bill is leaving and Tim has other projects. But I'd be (and I'm sure some others, too) more than happy to participate in beta-testing. Please do not close this development! I'll surely support you with my feedbacks if you will invite us to TestFlight!

    Regards,
    Tamas

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    tony ward

    This seems a persistent thing with Sky Safari - I recently commented on the lack of support for the Explore Scientific PMC mounts!!

    As the GTI is also on my shopping list, I was hoping for support but it appears to be another mount that's "in development" and thats been affected by Bill's retirement.

    Keiron, can you give a defacto answer in respect of where this development currently sits as I'm running out of mounts to use with Sky Safari 6 Pro as everything I'm looking at is compromised by the lack of support. I wouldn't mind but I'm certainly not getting any use / value from my copy of 6 Pro......

    Cheers

    Tony

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    tony ward

    No response?

    I'm also looking at iOptron and thats a minefield of whats supported and whats not and how!

    Keiron, please can we have some answers?

     

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    Luis Trumper

    Hi

     

    Any update on this.? Any firmware update in short term?

     

     Thanks 

    Luis

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    Tamás Fehér

    Hi,

    One of SkySafari's competitor was quicker - there is already a working solution for native SynScan support for IOS devices. I wouldn't say which one is that, as this forum is only for SkySafari, but I would like to give a heads-up for the developers. I tried that app and this native control feature is working nicely there, but fur sure, SkySafari is stil a more serius astronomy app. Connecting the mount is working as the app opens SynScan and once the communication channel is ready, it switches back. Then goto is functional, coordinate data is coming from the mount and the app can slew it.

    I'd be more than happy if this long awaited feature will arrive in the near future finally to SkySafari. First promises were about mid 2018, now it's 2020 soon...

    Regards,
    Tamas

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    Jay Sottolano

    Tamas,

    I'm a little familiar with this and was talking about it will Bill two NEAF events ago.  :-(  Part of this is Apple and the (in)ability to run simultaneous IOS apps in this particular scenario (not just running two apps).  Synscan development DID create an interface which you can get on Apple Store called SynScanLink as a means for programmers to work with getting access in a similar fashion to the SynScan Pro app and which works with the WiFi module and mounts like AZ-GTi.  The SynScanLink app doesn't do much on its own, but does also provide a link to the API set that can be coded to.  That link is listed with the app..  That said, there's still the need to initialize the mount with Synscan before handing it off to any planetarium software and the IOS double app issue is still there I believe.  

    I am curious as to which other telescope control program you're mentioning as working at a native level is?  Really interested!!!  I also want to see SkySafari get it working.

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    Tamás Fehér

    Jay,

    Yes, I also know a bit about the reasons why it's not so simple as on Android. I also know about the SynScanLink app, it's not needed for this app I mentioned. Which is by the way, Luminos (developer is Wobbleworks LLC). I have to use SynScan for mount alignment. After that, I switch to Luminos, connect the mount with it - it switches automatically to SynScan which displays a message for a sec then jumps back to Luminos. There is a short video about it here: https://youtu.be/93HdUzpdQ8U. No additional app is needed, only SynScan and Luminos.

    Currently I use SynScan on PC and SkySafari on iPhone - two devices. At home it's not a problem. But I really miss one device native support when I'm on field whithout my computer. SkySafari is much more professional, so I stick with it, but yes, we have been waiting for this feature since autumn 2017...

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    Jay Sottolano

    Tamas,

    Thanks for the link.  No imaging aspect that I saw, but they do appear to be handshaking..  I use an iPhone for SynScan and iPad for SkySafari.  Two devices as well.

    Jay

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    Keiron Smith

    Hi Stargazers, 

    We are now beta testing native support for SkySafari + SynScan WiFi on iOS.

    Please read this if you want to participate in the beta.

    Beta Testing SkySafari 6 (iOS Only) & SynScan WiFi - Read This To Participate!

    Thanks!

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    Jay Sottolano

    Keiron,

    What specifically are you announcing regarding using SynScan WiFi adapter?  Can everything be done on one IOS device for the larger mounts now? I've was part of the beta for mounts with WiFi built in (AZ-GTi/Gte), but polar alignment there is totally different than on an EQ6-R Pro..  How are you accounting for the need for Polar Alignment to be done?  Without the Hand Controller on an EQ6-R Pro, I'm very interested in how initial setup is being done before handoff to SkySafari?

    Thanks
    Jay S.

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    Keiron Smith

    Hi Jay, 

    My update is about cleaning up post titles to reflect the official release of SynScan WiFi support on iOS, such that 2 devices are not required now.

    Why are you using an EQ6-R Pro without a hand controller?  What is it you expect SkySafari to do that it is not doing?  

    Please outline your challenge, in detail, and I will see that developers are made aware.  Please make no assumptions.  More details are better.

    Thanks!

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    Jay Sottolano

    Keiron,

    The title is about the SynScan WiFi adapter, which is different than the internal WiFi found in the AZ-GTi/GTe for example. The plug-in SynScan WiFi adapter for the EQ6-R replaces the hand controller so you cannot do any initialization (e.g. alignment procedure) of the mount with SkySafari as you would/can do with the SynScan Pro app. So, unless I'm not communicating it right, SkySafari still requires SynScan Pro for the EQ6-R to initialize the mount, then switch to SkySafari on IOS, which still leaves the problem of needing two apps running.

    Jay

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    Keiron Smith

    Right, 2 apps but now 1 device.  I will correct the title.  Also, you could review this discussion about the setup.

    https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360052209213-What-Is-The-Latest-News-On-The-AZ-GTI-Mount-Answer-SkyWatcher-WiFi-Is-Now-Officially-Supported-On-iOS-?

    Thanks!

     

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