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Beta Testing Starry Night 8 (New Deep Sky Objects Database + LiveSky Integration) - Read EVERYTHING To Participate!

Invitation To Everyone:

*** If you were approved for the recent SN7.6.4 beta testing (and already created a support account), then you are pre-approved for SN8 beta testing - and can download the beta and access the SN8 beta testing forum now ***

Everyone here in the Community Forums is invited to participate in Starry Night 8 beta testing!

Your beta-testing feedback, whatever you can contribute, will be invaluable to the success of Starry Night 8!

Please read completely through this post to understand what we are doing for this round of Starry Night 8 beta testing (this is a little different again from how we have done it before)

Starry Night 8 officially supports Windows 10 and macOS 10.10+

 

To beta test Starry Night you need 2 accounts!

  1. support.simulationcurriculum.com account - for providing feedback, reporting bugs, in the Starry Night beta community forum.
  2. beta.starrynight.com account - for downloading the beta.

 

How to Apply - The 2 Part Process:

  1. Please reply here (in a comment below) if you can help us at this time.   And please outline your experience with Starry Night (or SkySafari), including what versions of Starry Night (SkySafari) you have run previously, what telescopes you are controlling, what kind of astronomy you are involved in, if you are a power user, etc.  Importantly, your reply shows us that you have registered a support.simulationcurriculum.com account. 
  2. Visit the following URL and fill out the application webform: https://beta.starrynight.com/reqreg.php  Complete the registration process, choosing a password, and then you can access the beta downloads.  If you are already a registered Starry Night beta tester then please DO NOT fill out the web form again - you are pre-approved.  However, you must still reply here (in a comment below) if you can help us at this time. 

 

*** IMPORTANT*** In your comment below please state whether you have previously beta tested Starry Night 7; i.e, whether you already have the beta.starrynight.com account.

*** IMPORTANT*** If you're testing the beta on a computer that is also using Starry Night for important astronomy research please be careful, and understand what you are doing - if you are not sure what you are doing, please ask for my assistance first!  

*** IMPORTANT*** I don't want anyone to lose any important research.  So, please back up your work before you begin!

*** IMPORTANT***

  • On Windows 10, if you have Pro Plus 7 installed you can not install Pro Plus 8.  You will will encounter a conflict during installation.  So, you must install Pro 8 instead.  If you have Pro 7 installed you must install Pro Plus 8. 
  • On macOS, you can install both Pro Plus 7 and Pro Plus 8 side by side (and same for Pro).

 

When you are approved to participate, notified via an email, you will be able to download the beta and also have access to the Starry Night 8 Beta Testing forum.  The Starry Night 8 Beta Testing forum is hidden until you are approved to participate.

 

*** If accepted to the Starry Night 8 beta-testing forum please do NOT report bug/issues on this post.  See below for workflow ***

 

The Process:

As you find bugs/issues in Starry Night please first review the current discussions in the Starry Night 8 Beta Testing forum (which is hidden until you are approved).  If your bug/issue has already been identified please comment on the existing post. 

If your bug/issue has not been identified please create a NEW post in the Starry Night 8 Beta Testing forum. 

For clarity regarding this bug reporting process please see the post "Example Bug Report" (hidden until you are officially approved)

Please do NOT submit tickets with bugs/issues.

 

How To Follow The Starry Night 8 Beta Forum:

As part of your participation we would appreciate that you follow the Starry Night Beta Testing forum.  Following a forum means you will receive email updates when anyone creates a NEW post or comments/replies to one of the existing posts. This is important for two reasons. 

  1. Following the forum ensures you receive email updates regarding all admin communications to the beta testers.  If admins make a post asking for assistance you will get an email update with that post.
  2. Following is also very important so that you have an on-going status report regarding bugs/issues identified, confirmed, requiring further testing, or have been resolved, etc.  This will help you stay on top of the overall process, and ensure you are not duplicating efforts where issues are already known and resolved.

 

To FOLLOW the Starry Night Beta Testing community forum please see here.  Note, you must have been approved first, and have access to the forum before you can follow it.


 

Replying to Email Updates:

When you follow the Starry Night 8 Beta Testing forum you will receive email updates regarding new posts (and comments, if opted for).  Please do not reply to email updates using the "Reply" function. 

Please first use the "View the comment" link to open the community forum post, then reply to the post. 

This point is crucially important - so please understand the image below.

If you use the email update "Reply" function your reply will NOT be added to the community forum discussion.


Downloading the Starry Night 8 Beta app:

In order to participate you will need to download the Starry Night app from beta.starrynight.com (note, your application approval is required first)

 

About Updating the Beta:

When you run the beta app, it will look for a newer version and notify you if there is a newer version available.

 

How to Use the Community Forums:

For clarity regarding how to use the Community Forums (posting/replying/following) please see here:

How To Sign Into The Community Forums (Required For Posting And Replying To Topics)

Browsers Supported by Simulation Curriculum Community Forums (Cookies Must Be Enabled)

How To Use Your New Community Support Forums

  

Starry Night Beta Testing Summarized

Please...

  1. SIGN IN or create account on this Simulation Curriculum support website.
  2. REPLY to this post (in a comment below) in order to apply to the Starry Night Beta Testing group.
  3. Apply via the https://beta.starrynight.com/reqreg.php web form to join the beta testing.
  4. When approved to join the beta testing, download the SN8 beta from beta.starrynight.com
  5. Previous Starry Night 7 beta testers are ALREADY pre-approved (you can go get the beta now!) but you must still reply in a comment below.
  6. FOLLOW the main Starry Night 8 beta forum to be kept up-to-date of any new posts (bug reports) and discussions thereafter (you get email updates).
  7. REVIEW previous beta testing discussions before posting your bug report.
  8. COMMENT on bugs already reported.
  9. Create NEW posts for bugs not yet reported.
  10. Follow the bug reporting GUIDELINES when reporting or commenting on bugs.
  11. Do NOT reply/comment to community forum email updates.  Instead, VIEW the post first, then comment in the forum.
  12. Post any questions, about anything to do with the beta testing, in the beta forum.  We will reply to you there. 

 

Please also read the "What's New in Starry Night 8 and What We Need Tested" and "About LiveSky" posts here (approval required):

https://support.simulationcurriculum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360019432514-What-s-New-in-Starry-Night-8-And-What-We-Need-Test-

About LiveSky - Please Read - Very Important

 

Thank YOU! 

Please let me know if you have any questions.

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    Dave Newbury

    Hi,

    I'm available for beta testing. Have been using SNPP7 for 2-3 years in an observatory to control EQ8 mount with various scopes (SCTs and refractors). Mostly for imaging. Have not beta tested before and do not currently have a beta test account.

    Cheers,

    Dave Newbury

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    Keiron Smith

    Thanks, Dave!  You're approved.  Look forward to your feedback in the Starry Night 8 beta testing forum!

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    Colin Holgate

    I've used Starry Night since it was shipped on a floppy disk. I haven't used it for controlling scopes, though that does interest me. I mainly use it for figuring out what I'm looking at, or for checking what path a satellite is going to take, things like that.

    Generally speaking I'm a good beta tester!

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    Keiron Smith

    Thanks, Colin!  You're approved!  Look forward to your feedback in the Starry Night 8 beta testing forum!

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    Jim Ujcik

    Hi Keiron, I'm available for beta testing and tested v7 also. I use it to control my Celestron 130mm and for creating observing lists and just general looking around the sky.

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    Keiron Smith

    Thanks, Jim!  You're approved!  Look forward to your feedback in the Starry Night 8 beta testing forum!

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    James Macak

    Hi Keiron,

    I'm interested in beta testing SNP. I've used Starry Night since its floppy disk days. Currently SNP 7 is on my iMac and MacBook Pro. (I also have SkySafari Pro, installed on my iPhone.) The latter is used in the field to interface with and control a Meade LX600 10" telescope for visual observing. I consider myself a "power user" of Macs, having worked in technical support for them for over 10 years.

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    Keiron Smith

    Thanks, James!  You're approved!  Look forward to your feedback in the Starry Night 8 beta testing forum!

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    Keiron Smith

    Reminder to all, you'll still need to apply for the beta.starrynight.com account in order to access the beta download.

    Thanks!

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    John Sillasen

    I can access the beta download but it failed to install. Posted error but am confused if I'm in because we are pre-approved or if you still need to approve us to do it.

    Oddly, I downloaded v8 Pro Beta so half approved at least.

     

    John Sillasen

     

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    Keiron Smith

    Hi John et al, 

    Please do not post issues here.  Please use the Starry Night 8 Beta Forum:

    Starry Night | Beta Testing Starry Night 8

    John, I replied to your post in there, thanks!

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    Jean-Claude JESIOR

    Hi Keiron,

    I wish to apply for the current SN8 beta testing (I was already approved for the SN7.6.4 beta testing)

    Regards,

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    Roman Bakay

    I am a user of Starry Night with version 3 and I use Sky Safari on my iPad and Mac.

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    Keiron Smith

    Thanks, Roman!  You're approved!  Look forward to your feedback in the Starry Night 8 beta testing forum!

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    Lawrence

    I'd love to see and beta test v8! Using SNPP7beta currently for controlling my Celestron 11 Edge scope for imaging with M25C camera. I also bought (!) the app version for my tablet. Assuming that my age (73) does not rule me out ;-) I'd love to get in on v8.

    thanks - Lawrence Harris

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    Chris Pohlad-Thomas

    I would like to participate in the beta test for v8 please!

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    Claude Benoit

    I've been able to log in and  review the Beta Testing requirements. I use SNP Pro Plus 7 on my laptop and quite enjoy its features. I also use SkySafari 6 pro. I'm an imager and use both to reference the RA and DEC of objects at specific times and their characteristics, for planning purposes. Occasionally I'll connect to the mount via the Celestron Telescope Driver and slew to an object, or perhaps follow the slew I've initiated using MaximDL to monitor how close I am to an object;  then nudge the scope in the correct direction. I haven't been able to control my rotator with SNP and haven't used the MDL features of SNP (yet), which is the reason I chose SNP.

    I would be concerned about the stability of the beta version given I have to delete a stable version off my laptop which I use frequently. If I'm having great difficulty with the beta version can I revert back at any time (by installing a stable version I retain on my laptop)? I could install the beta on my desktop only and work with it there but that somewhat limits the testing I would do, would that be acceptable. Lastly, how long will Beta testing last?

    Thank you

    Claude

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    greekwikipedia

    Hi
    I am very willing to participate in the beta testing of your app. I appreciate your software.

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    Maugustyn

    Experience with Starry Night (or SkySafari): No SN experience.  Lots of experience with SS4, SS5 and SS6.

    What telescopes you are controlling: 18" dob with stellar cat, 102mm apo with equatorial mount.

    What kind of astronomy you are involved in, if you are a power user, etc: Intermediate to advanced hobby astronomy. Extensive software experience with numerous astronomy software packages.

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    Paul D'Amelio

    Hi Keiron.

    I would love to participate in the Starry Night V8 Beta program. I've been using the software since version 3 and participated in the V7 beta test. I'm currently training to operate the 72" telescope at the David Dunlap Observatory. In addition I'm also currently training to operating a remote scope for the RASC in California. 

    Thank you.

    Regards

    Paul D'Amelio

    RASC, Toronto Centre

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    Philippe Reverdiau

    Hello !

    I practice astronomy since I was 17 (1968), with a home-made refractor, until now, with more scopes. I began to use StarryNight with version 4.5 and now with SN PRO 7, and recently gave a try to SkySafari Plus. Now retired, I would control my new-bought mount iOptron CEM25P with a 150mm refractor. It works with SkySafari 6 Plus (using the configuration "CEM/iEQ Pro/AZ Mount Pro", but no way with StarryNight Pro 7.

    I have never been ß-tester for StarryNight, nor for SkySafari.

    Best regards,

    Philippe

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    Mculmore

    Good morning Keiron,

    Matthew Culmore ready to make a run at another iteration of the best astronomy software and see it get better.

     

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    Adolfo Baltazar

    Hello. I've been using SN since it was called "deluxe" and it came in 3.5" floppies. I have used it mostly in outreach and to instruct kids on the night sky and what they will be seeing at the telescope as well as point out satellites and the ISS when it's going to be seen in the sky. My previous (and in my opinion the best so far) was SN Pro Plus, and I still use it because version 7 lacks the ease of use the 6 has. I'm still getting used to it since the graphic interface is way different than before. I look forward towards nitpicking the new version if I'm allowed to.

    CS, Adolfo.

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    Lorenzo Fongaro

    Hi Keiron.

    I'm here to betatest Starry Night v8.

    I've just sent you two bugs I found in the v8.0.0.1507.

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    Lorenzo Fongaro

    Keiron.

    Do you remember the bug I mentioned previously about extrasolar planets in starry Night 7.6. x? This bug is still present in both starry Night 7 last release that in Starry Night 8.

     

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    Jon de Pinet

    hi, i would like to help with the beta testing. i have used SNP7 in classwork, and have used sky safari to plan my observations for about 4 years now, having previously helped beta test SS6. i have previously worked for professional observatories though i now work for a STEM focused charter school located at a superb dark sky site with whom i would like to begin an intro to astronomy program complete with Starry night planetarium software and outside lectures by professional astronomers from my previous contacts.

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    Luigi Fiorentino

    Hi Keiron

    I'll be glad to be a part of the team of beta tester of SN8. I've been currently using SN7 PRO and on my win PC and Skysafari 5 PRO installed on my iPhone and iPAD. I'm an advanced user active in the astrophotography and studies of the comets.

    I've never partecipated in the past to a beta testing of SN

    Thank you

    Luigi

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    Steve Cox

    Hi Keiron,

    I would be glad to be a beta tester for SN8.  I've looked forward to this product for a while now.  I've used Starry Night since probably ver 3, and the same for SkySafari.  I'm currently running SN7 Pro Plus, and SkySafari 6 Pro, and also have LiveSky Premium subscription.  For scopes and use, my interest is purely as a visual observer, and I either connect to a Celestron Nexstar handset on my C6R, or I run manual mode.  I am interested in trying out and testing the integration between the two apps through LiveSky.

    Thanks

    Steve

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    Victor Abeloff

    I'm interested in being a beta tester for SN8.  I have not beta tested before. I am running SN Pro Plus 7 on Windows 10.  I am not a power user and do not use SN to control any telescopes.

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    Keiron Smith

    Thank you beta testers! 

    Everyone up to this point is approved to access the Starry Night 8 beta testing forum.  You can get to it using this link here.

    Starry Night | Beta Testing Starry Night 8

    To understand how we are running the beta testing please read all the pinned posts at the top of the forum.

    Again, please read the pinned posts at the top of the forum - there is very important info about how things are done.

    Importantly, if you haven't done so yet you also need to apply and be approved for a beta.starrynight.com account.  You can do that here:

    https://beta.starrynight.com/reqreg.php

    You need this second account approved in order to access the SN8 downloads + username and registration.

    Please post all issues in the Starry Night 8 beta test forum (please do not post issues as replies to this announcement).

    Again, thank you sooo much for getting onboard!  See you in the SN8 beta forum!

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